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9/28/2005 11:29 AM


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Interesting side affect I never considered at first... But this $400 is going to pretty much everyone. So there's going to be a bunch of homeless with $400 in their pocket for a change (they were interviewing a few on the news last night). Considering most people are going to flat out spend the $400 on stuff they normally wouldn't, this will end up being a boon for the retail industry (especially considering it's happening in december).


Sure they have some now but when all these countries start producing oil

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It's not that they will have less oil, per se, but that everyone will have oil.


I think you'll find OPEC has lost much of it's authority and influence after the oil prices skyrocketed above $30 or $40 back when (2 years ago?). Oil when it's brought out of the ground (especially in Saudi... Texas was also well known for this when the black gold rush hit) it's pretty much put a straw in and watch the oil flow. Very very cheap oil comes out (thus the early cheap oil prices). As these pools drain, it gets harder and harder to get the oil out. It can still be obtained, but techniques like injecting water and other various tricks can be used... But this costs more. Most oil pools on the earth (within our reach) have now been reduced to this point... Meaning that although oil is abundant, the price of getting it out of the ground has increased alot from material/equipment needed to the shortage of skilled oil workers out there.

Not saying prices will stay as high as they are right now... But you'll find the 'balanced' price will be pretty high compared to the past. If it falls beneath $40 a barrel, many oil sources suddenly become cost ineffiecient and production will shut down or at very least be limited (pushing supply down and price back up).
9/29/2005 8:14 PM
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At the right price, all kinds of stuff becomes practical. In the second energy crisis (1977-78) I worked on a project where the source of energy was the difference in temperature between the surface of the ocean and the depths. If you enclose a section of the ocean, water will begin to vaporize, you pass that through a turbine and condense it with cold water brought from the deep. It works too but the capital cost is humongous- huge, long pipe, huge turbine (helicopter blades gave a pretty good demo) generators, connections to land etc. One optimal location was the big island of Hawaii, deep ocean trench close to shore, expensive alternative energy etc.

There are some other sources of tar sands See this

There is lots of natural gas in the Prudoe Bay field in Alaska. Problem is how to get it out. If Natural gas continues to climb in cost we may build a pipeline.

Wind farms, solar power etc. There is no fuel crisis- the day I see two people in an SUV when I commute, will be the day I think gasoline prices are too high.
9/30/2005 9:40 AM


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My wife and I started carpooling to work a few weeks ago and we both have cars. I still see the majority of people driving alone in SUVs, pick-ups, etc... I thought the same thing. Despite all the complaining, I guess prices aren't high enough to change people's habits yet. Obviously not everyone can carpool, but I can't believe none of them have co-workers that live a short drive away.
9/30/2005 10:00 AM


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Hmmm, maybe infrastructure IS the best plan. Either that or you could make a large one time gp donation to the US. We could certainly USE it since we ARE on the verge of economic collapse, civil war, moral implosion, military-hyper-over-extension, covert-fascist-revolution, ecological-destruction, civil disorder, pollutatory-gridlock, vindicatory-global-warming-induced-natural-cataclysm, and general malaise.

muhahaha -- I'm gonna print that out and stick it to my forehead.

You guys should buy tanks from America... LOTS of them!

::drives off... alone... in big ole SUV:::

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