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| Hah!, I should've known by the title this was going to be an ugly thread Be patient with me as I've just got through this and feel a need to respond...
Ness:
common Scipio, I hope your exagerating. If this is how you feel, your more brainwashed by conservative america then I thought.
Yes because only the conservatives 'brainwash' people...
I guess that’s the difference between liberal Canadians and conservative Americans. We don't mind getting tips for improvement (we actually appreciate it), where you can't stand anyone even suggesting an improvement. Because it runs counter to our 'brainwashing' I guess...
I see you're a book man Scipio, and clearly not open minded in the literature you chose to read. Have you done these studies on THC yourself, or did you read about the effects in some journal written for the Republican party of America. Because to be 'open minded' you must agree with the liberals I'm guessing? Apparently one can't have a differing opinion and be open minded? A very closed minded thing of you to say
Seared:
Besides, standard Canadian opinion is china = ally, america = destroyers of the world. Yeah, why is that?
Say something about the US and you're told 'Shut up ya leftist freak, I wish someone would bomb your nation already... Isn't this getting old yet?' with really nothing backing it up. Who told you that? Sounds similar to the stuff you get on the right (I guess that’s the difference between liberal Canadians and conservative Americans. We don't mind getting tips for improvement (we actually appreciate it), where you can't stand anyone even suggesting an improvement. )
Are you telling me that you have not once considered the financial benefits being reaped by special interest groups because of the war? Special Intrest Groups benefit no matter who's in charge or what's going on. Granted, many of those SIGs represent corporations and such (which doooo provide jobs) but some are also represent the average joe. Many SIGs are just representations of large groups of people (NAACP for example...) My point is, what is the difference between Boeing benefitting and Jesse Jackson?
And the reason behind the war may not be terror but instead a claim on every last lucrative contract to come out of the war? Most info I see is pointing towards the Iraq war not being about terror. You say 'Most Info'...so you are reading something that says it was about terror. I think alot of people (especially on the left in the US) don't realize there were multiple reasons for Iraq. You see, in this country most libs will tell you it was all about Bush lying (forgetting that every other country on the planet believed the same thing) because he wanted the oil or contracts for Haliburton. But, one of the hopes of setting up a democracy in Iraq (oh, not to mention stopping the Genocide that was going on there ) is that it will be an example for other countries in the middle east as an open and (dare I say) Liberal society (though compared to what was there 'W' is about as liberal as they come ). Yeah, it's rough. But typically it's taken about a decade to pull this kind of stuff off in the past. The question is, do we (i.e. the US) have the patience for it? (cause we know the rest of the world doesn't. Thank God those war hating French weren't around to complain about us back in WWII...oh wait )
But I remain skeptical until I have proof that this war was for the reasons stated and not a hidden agenda As expected, we all approach this from our own point of view...however, just because one supports this war don't make the assumption that that person is stupid or brainwashed. To do so shows you not only think you know everything, but that, in fact, you don't.
I have no comments on Pat Robertson other than to say he's a bit off his rocker.
As for Castro, I hear the medical system down there is great if you need Band-Aids or abortions...that's about it though.
Scipio, I understand than security is a huge concern after 9/11. But it has been manipulated to be the only concern that anyone even bothers taking into account. And by using terror, any action seems to be jutsifiable. You'd be suprised really at how that's not the case. Take for instance the border with Mexico. A huge opportunity for terrorists to get in and yet little has been done about it (in comparison to what could be done) not to mention the fact that all those prisoners over at Gitmo are still breathing. What do you think the Al Queda would do with 1000+ prisoners in the name of 'security'
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