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10/4/2005 10:30 AM


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Ya gotta love the direction the conservatives are taking the once great nation of the USA.

Article here.

10/4/2005 11:05 AM


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Having the right to protect oneself if attacked is a conservative value?
10/4/2005 11:48 AM


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Is a gun really necessary to protect yourself from a person without a gun?
10/4/2005 12:14 PM


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Yes, and nevermind the fact that Mr. President nominates someone to the Supreme Court that has zero judicial experience.
10/4/2005 2:49 PM


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Hey Locus, maybe you should start a thread about that. I was under the impression that this one is about gun control.

Ness, Is that what the law states? I don't get that from the article. It sounds like the article is really just reporting on the leaflets being passed out by an activist group, the likes of which tend to not be 100% candid about what they oppose (this is true of right wing as well as left wing activists, BTW).

Here's an article in the Orlando Sentinel by Mike Thomas (note that it is an editorial):
Self-defense law won't stir trigger-mania
The simple fact is that most gun owners are responsible people, and laws don't change their behavior. There are almost 15,000 people in Orange County with concealed-weapons permits. When's the last time one of them pulled a gun on you?

If someone was not going to open fire before this weekend, he will not open fire after this weekend.

And if there is some crazed DeNiro character out there, a change in statutory language won't factor into whether he pulls the trigger.

Here is the Florida senate website: Florida Senate, and here is the actual bill: HB 0249, which is actually an amendment to an existing law, or so it appears. Take a read and tell me if you still feel the same.
10/4/2005 3:19 PM


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Hey Locus, maybe you should start a thread about that. I was under the impression that this one is about gun control.


Oh... I thought that this one was about the direction that the conservatives were taking this once great nation.... :p
10/4/2005 3:31 PM


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No worries. I actually started an new thread on that subject. I wasn't being sarcastic. I just don't want two totally different topics in the same thread because it's just harder to make arguments when you are trying to remember what you are arguing.
Oh... I thought that this one was about the direction that the conservatives were taking this once great nation....

Okay, how is this nation less great today because of conservatives and what made it great in the past?
10/4/2005 4:05 PM


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Okay, how is this nation less great today because of conservatives and what made it great in the past?


Great leaders like Roosevelt have made America Great. Charlatan leaders like the Bush family (and Regan) make it less great.

And the direction towards promoting the armament of urban centres to me ostensibly appears dangerous.
10/4/2005 4:38 PM
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An armed society is a polite society.
10/4/2005 5:11 PM


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