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psweetman1590

7/21/2007 4:04 PM

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As suggested in the impeachment thread, I think it's prudent to create a law dealing with all unofficial threads (not just princeps nominations). So, I take it most are in favor of allowing said threads to exist freely. Thus, I would propose, as a first draft, the following: "Threads and discussions not intended to carry official weight, force a ruling, or otherwise directly influence the running of the government are considered to be outside the jurisdiction of Constitutional review by the Supreme Court and are not to be closed or restricted by reason of interfering with the Supreme Court's or any other government body's Constitutional duties." Let the discussion commence!
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Mr. G

7/21/2007 10:06 PM

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I support this amendment, if and only if it itself is constitutionally valid.
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Zigeuner

7/21/2007 10:15 PM

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Perhaps we should adopt a more general law stating that common sense will rule supreme? We would be better served with a law concerning the highly irregular election of senator psweetman1590, who _during the actual voting_ stepped down, then stepped up again, and was declared elected as if such behavior is not in the least bit strange!
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Mr. G

7/21/2007 10:34 PM

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Zigeuner (7/21/2007) Perhaps we should adopt a more general law stating that common sense will rule supreme? We would be better served with a law concerning the highly irregular election of senator psweetman1590, who _during the actual voting_ stepped down, then stepped up again, and was declared elected as if such behavior is not in the least bit strange! If only it were true... However, I cannot - as my authority lies within the bounds of the Court - pass legislation on how campaigns elections ought to be held. I can only try to make sense of the situations that arise after the fact. This is why the Judicial Branch may be too small at this point, two guys absent at the same team throws the whole Community into disarray. This is also why I'm seriously considering creating a Clerkship position that will also serve as a Deputy Judge of some sort (if there is interest of course). Herein lies the core problem with how things are handled here, IMHO. Fix these issues and you'll fix a lot, hopefully for some time down the road as well. That is all, G
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Comedy Dave

7/21/2007 10:38 PM

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PSweet your proposal makes sense, it's just a shame that common sense could not prevail as you would think this would go without saying... Although I'd hate to have to legslisate for every pedantic point that common sense should cover... Zig - yep you're right, that was a peculiar election process. Maybe we need to lay down some ground rules regarding withdrawal - such as whether you can re-enter the race after, or whether a re-election should be held.
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Mr. G

7/21/2007 10:48 PM

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Although I'd hate to have to legslisate for every pedantic point that common sense should cover... This sentence scares me slightly. You should try and legislate to cover loopholes in the Articles of Law (and to do your freakin jobs too). For Christ's sake you only have 2 at this point! That's nothing! If you don't cover the pecularities, then you're leaving the Supreme Court out to dry with no laws to stand on, no cases to stand on either. The only reason the result of the election was in psweet's favor was because swordinthestorm didn't have a problem with being Deputy Senator. But, if he would have had a problem and had filed suit in the Supreme Court......well, that would just have been a mess. G comes down off his rant a bit here People must be willing and ready to file suit against one another in the Court system, otherwise one whole branch of the government is unused. I think that's a point worth remembering and worth legislating for. Good night my collegues. G
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Tosk

7/22/2007 2:51 AM

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As suggested in the impeachment thread, I think it's prudent to create a law dealing with all unofficial threads (not just princeps nominations). Perhaps rather than put to much thought, and effort, into this perhaps a simple statement that no branch of government shall infringe on the right of free speech. I think that "Official" legislature, threads etc are already covered? People must be willing and ready to file suit against one another in the Court system, otherwise one whole branch of the government is unused. I think that's a point worth remembering and worth legislating for. Unless I am reading it terribly wrong this would require setting up an entire judicial system. The SC, as it is constructed, is to rule on constitutionality not delve into civil law??? This is also why I'm seriously considering creating a Clerkship position that will also serve as a Deputy Judge of some sort (if there is interest of course). I would still have an interest in the position ... as long as it remains a clerk.
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Bismarck2990

7/22/2007 3:28 AM

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It really just seems like making common sense written into law. However, I suppose it is needed to avoid past scenarios... I'm positive something brief could be added into the Supreme Court section of the Constitution (or any government body for that matter) briefly stating it has no say in the procedure of unofficial threads. I'll let you all argue over what the exact text should say but I'm in agreement to now have this included into the Constitution. The SC Clerk position should be kept simple and able to function at the drop of a dime (eh, at the press of a post topic button) when situations arise in the SC. However, I'll leave the rest of my opinions concerning the position for when it's the origional topic at hand.
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Comedy Dave

7/22/2007 7:13 AM

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This sentence scares me slightly. You should try and legislate to cover loopholes in the Articles of Law (and to do your freakin jobs too). For Christ's sake you only have 2 at this point!

Actually, I think we did a couple of ratifications of a couple of SC decisions when MM and VC were still around... and we put forward a couple of constitutional changes...

but anyway... Wink

I don't mind legislating to cover various points and details. What I meant was that I didn't expect I had to legislate for common sens